André Saltzman (Salzman): The Schrock-Birkey Connection

André Saltzman (Salzman)

Male 1795 - 1876  (81 years)


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Generation: 1

  1. 1.  André Saltzman (Salzman) was born on 12 May 1795 in Sarralbe, Moselle, FR; died on 3 Nov 1876 in Danvers, McLean Co., IL; was buried on 5 Nov 1876 in Carlock, Dry Grove Twp., McLean Co., IL.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • USR1: “Infirmities Of Age”
    • Immigration: 30 Apr 1831, Butler Co., OH
    • Census: 1840, Butler Co., St. Clair Twp., OH
    • Census: 27 Sep 1850, Butler Co., St. Clair Twp., OH
    • Residence: Dec 1853, Tazewell Co., IL
    • Census: 1860, McLean Co., IL

    Notes:

    Obit: Herald of Truth Dec 1876
    Nov. 3rd, in McLean Co., Ill., of the infirmities of age, Andrew SALZMAN, aged 77 years. Buried the 5th. Services by Joseph Stuckey, from Rev.14: 13.
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    Andrew married Anne Catherine Hodler who was born 10 Oct. 1801 at Ste. Marie-aux-Mines, Upper Alsace to Christian Hodler and Madeleine Maurer. Andrew and family left Blamont, France four years later in 1831 to emigrate via Baltimore to Butler County, OH with Andrew's brother Michael (1799-1861). In Butler County Andrew declared his intention to become a citizen of the United States. In 1854 they moved to White Oak Twp. McLean County, IL and at the age of 77 Andrew died on 3 Nov. 1876 at the home of his daughter, Catherine Troyer in Danvers, of the "infirmities of age." Ann died 14 December 1891 at Hudson, McLean County also of the "infirmities of age." Her obituary records "her posterity number 79"...She was buried...in the Simon Lantz burial ground." From Find A Grave contributor Nancy J. Miller.

    Birth:
    At the stud farm Haras

    Immigration:
    Port of Baltimore

    Census:
    Living with wife and five children. Andrew and Anne were listed as “cannot read and cannot write.”

    Residence:
    Went west with his wife, two daughters and son Arthur and his new wife.

    Census:
    White Oak Township, living with daughter Barbara and her husband and two children. Andrew’s age is given as 60.

    Died:
    At home of daughter Catherine Troyer.

    Buried:
    Lantz Cemetery. Services by Joseph Stuckey.

    André married Anne Catherine Hodler on 5 Feb 1827 in Val-de-Gueblange, Moselle, FR. Anne (daughter of Christian Hodler and Madeleine Maurer) was born on 10 Oct 1801 in St. Marie-aux-Mines, Moselle, FR; died on 14 Dec 1891 in Hudson, McLean Co., IL; was buried in Carlock, Dry Grove Twp., McLean Co., IL. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 2. Joseph Arthur (Otto) Salzman  Descendancy chart to this point was born on 25 May 1825 in Blâmont, Moselle, FR; died on 1 May 1871 in Butler Co., OH; was buried in Trenton, Butler Co., OH.
    2. 3. Barbara Salzman  Descendancy chart to this point was born in 1827 in Saxony; died in 1894 in Hitchcock Co., NE; was buried in Hitchcock Co., NE.
    3. 4. Andrew Salzman  Descendancy chart to this point was born on 10 Oct 1829 in Blâmont, Moselle, FR; died on 20 Apr 1891; was buried in Carlock, Dry Grove Twp., McLean Co., IL.
    4. 5. Christian H. Salzman  Descendancy chart to this point was born on 14 May 1837 in Butler Co., OH.
    5. 6. Catharine Salzman  Descendancy chart to this point was born on 19 Aug 1841 in Butler Co., OH; died on 28 Apr 1921 in Hudson, McLean Co., IL; was buried in Carlock, McLean Co., IL.


Generation: 2

  1. 2.  Joseph Arthur (Otto) Salzman Descendancy chart to this point (1.André1) was born on 25 May 1825 in Blâmont, Moselle, FR; died on 1 May 1871 in Butler Co., OH; was buried in Trenton, Butler Co., OH.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Religion: Apostolic Christian
    • USR1: Consumption
    • Census: 1860, Tazewell Co., IL
    • Residence: 1862, Butler Co., OH
    • Residence: 1866, Butler Co., St. Clair Twp., OH

    Notes:

    Obit: Jul 1871 Herald of Truth
    On the 1st of May, after an illness of two years, in Butler County, Ohio, Arthur Salsman, aged 44 years, 11 months an 15 days. He had a desire to depart and be with Christ. He leaves a wife and six children. He was buried at the Apostolic Mennonite Church. Funeral discourses by Peter Kinsinger, from Heb. 13:14, and from Pre. Smoker from Ps. 39:5.
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    Peter Schrock, Sr., was administrator of Arthur’s estate, which totaled $1612. Appraisers were Adam Flenner, B.F. Thomas, and C.K. Augspurger. Everything went to Magdalena and the four youngest children.

    Birth:
    (54) Parents were age 30 and 23 at time of his birth.

    Census:
    Morton Township. Living with wife, three sons, and a sister-in-law, Fanny Shrock, age 19.

    Residence:
    Moved back with his immediate family

    Residence:
    Wooddale farm owned by Peter Schrock

    Buried:
    Mennonite Cemetery #31

    Joseph married Magdalena Schrag on 13 Nov 1853 in Butler Co., OH. Magdalena (daughter of Peter Schrock and Marie Zimmerman) was born on 7 Jun 1830 in Dompcevrin, Meuse, FR; died on 27 Jan 1878 in Butler Co., OH; was buried in Trenton, Butler Co., OH. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 7. John Salzman  Descendancy chart to this point was born on 27 Dec 1854 in Tazewell Co., IL; died on 6 Feb 1937 in Belleville, St. Clair Co., IL; was buried in Belleville, St. Clair Co., IL.
    2. 8. Christian Salzman  Descendancy chart to this point was born on 16 Oct 1856 in Tazewell Co., IL; died on 30 May 1910 in Martinsville, IN; was buried in Trenton, Butler Co., OH.
    3. 9. Peter Salzman  Descendancy chart to this point was born on 28 May 1858 in Tazewell Co., IL; died on 12 Dec 1939; was buried in Mt. Pleasant, Henry Co., IA.
    4. 10. Joseph Arthur Salzman  Descendancy chart to this point was born on 25 Feb 1862 in Butler Co., OH; died on 9 Mar 1932 in Iowa City, Johnson Co., IA; was buried in Toledo, Tama Co., IA.
    5. 11. Anna M. Salzman  Descendancy chart to this point was born on 7 Feb 1864 in Butler Co., OH; died on 17 Apr 1949; was buried in Troy, Miami Co., OH.
    6. 12. Mary B. Salzman  Descendancy chart to this point was born on 12 Nov 1865 in Butler Co., OH; died on 19 Sep 1946; was buried in Trenton, Butler Co., OH.

  2. 3.  Barbara Salzman Descendancy chart to this point (1.André1) was born in 1827 in Saxony; died in 1894 in Hitchcock Co., NE; was buried in Hitchcock Co., NE.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Census: 1860, McLean Co., IL

    Notes:

    Lived in 1860 in McLean Co., but shortly thereafter they moved to Waldo Township, Livingston County, where they raised their family. They were active in the Mennonite Church. in 1893 they moved to Hitchcock County, Nebraska.

    Census:
    White Oak Township

    Buried:
    Mt. Zion Cemetery

    Barbara married Christian King, Jr. after 1853 in IL. Christian was born on 15 Dec 1830 in Saxony; died on 3 Jul 1909 in Hitchcock Co., NE; was buried in Hitchcock Co., NE. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  3. 4.  Andrew Salzman Descendancy chart to this point (1.André1) was born on 10 Oct 1829 in Blâmont, Moselle, FR; died on 20 Apr 1891; was buried in Carlock, Dry Grove Twp., McLean Co., IL.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • MILF: Y
    • Religion: Presbyterian
    • Residence: 1856, Woodford Co., IL
    • Census: 1860, Tazewell Co., IL
    • Residence: 1865, Livingston Co., IL
    • Residence: 1867, McLean Co., IL
    • Residence: 1868, Johnson Co., NE

    Notes:

    Obit: at 63 years

    The funeral of Andrew Salzman took place Thursday, April 23,1891 from the German Baptist Church. Rev. J. Stuckey of Danvers preached the sermon to a large number of sympathizing friends and neighbors. After services the remains were taken to Carlock. Mr. Salzman has been an invalid for more than a year, having received a stroke of paralysis. Some time ago he was taken sick with the grip, which hastened his death. He leaves to mourn his death, a wife, three sons one daughter, an aged mother, one brother and two sisters. He was 63 when he died
    contributed by Nancy J Miller (source not given)

    Andrew and Barbara had six children.

    Census:
    Groveland Township, listed as carpenter.

    Buried:
    Lantz Cemetery (southeast of Carlock)

    Andrew married Barbara Schmidt on 20 Aug 1851. Barbara (daughter of Johannes Peterschmidt and Christine Schwartz) was born on 29 Apr 1826 in Alsace, FR; died on 11 Jan 1916 in Normal, McLean Co., IL; was buried in Carlock, Dry Grove Twp., McLean Co., IL. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 13. John W. Salzman  Descendancy chart to this point was born on 28 May 1852 in Butler Co., OH; died on 12 Dec 1921 in Bloomington, McLean Co., IL; was buried in Carlock, McLean Co., IL.
    2. 14. Andrew Benjamin Salzman  Descendancy chart to this point was born on 29 Jul 1855 in Butler Co., OH; died on 10 Nov 1930.
    3. 15. Christiana Salzman  Descendancy chart to this point

  4. 5.  Christian H. Salzman Descendancy chart to this point (1.André1) was born on 14 May 1837 in Butler Co., OH.

    Christian married Mary Troyer on 29 Apr 1862 in McLean Co., IL. Mary (daughter of Jonas Troyer and Elizabeth Miller) was born on 27 Jan 1844 in Licking Co., OH; died on 6 Jun 1873 in Bloomington, McLean Co., IL. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 16. Emmanuel Salzman  Descendancy chart to this point

    Christian married Elizabeth Hodler on 25 Nov 1880 in McLean Co., IL. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  5. 6.  Catharine Salzman Descendancy chart to this point (1.André1) was born on 19 Aug 1841 in Butler Co., OH; died on 28 Apr 1921 in Hudson, McLean Co., IL; was buried in Carlock, McLean Co., IL.

    Notes:

    Catherine was called Cady, and later Kate. Gravestone gives surname spelling as Salzman.

    Buried:
    Troyer Cemetery

    Catharine married Mannasses Troyer on 19 Jan 1862 in McLean Co., IL. Mannasses (son of Jonas Troyer and Elizabeth Miller) was born on 16 Jun 1841 in Holmes Co., OH; died on 28 Aug 1914 in McLean Co., IL; was buried in Carlock, McLean Co., IL. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 17. Anna Troyer Ummel  Descendancy chart to this point was born in 1863; died in 1946.
    2. 18. Ella Troyer  Descendancy chart to this point was born on 21 Jan 1870 in IL; died on 22 Mar 1953 in Bloomington, McLean Co., IL; was buried in Carlock, Dry Grove Twp., McLean Co., IL.
    3. 19. Emanuel Troyer  Descendancy chart to this point was born in 1871; died in 1942; was buried in Carlock, McLean Co., IL.


Generation: 3

  1. 7.  John Salzman Descendancy chart to this point (2.Joseph2, 1.André1) was born on 27 Dec 1854 in Tazewell Co., IL; died on 6 Feb 1937 in Belleville, St. Clair Co., IL; was buried in Belleville, St. Clair Co., IL.

    Notes:

    Never married.

    Buried:
    Walnut Hill Cemetery


  2. 8.  Christian Salzman Descendancy chart to this point (2.Joseph2, 1.André1) was born on 16 Oct 1856 in Tazewell Co., IL; died on 30 May 1910 in Martinsville, IN; was buried in Trenton, Butler Co., OH.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Occupation: Millwright, Inventor

    Notes:

    Married Sophia Davish in 1890’s.

    Buried:
    Mennonite Cemetery


  3. 9.  Peter Salzman Descendancy chart to this point (2.Joseph2, 1.André1) was born on 28 May 1858 in Tazewell Co., IL; died on 12 Dec 1939; was buried in Mt. Pleasant, Henry Co., IA.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Occupation: Millwright, Farmer

    Notes:



    Buried:
    Forest Lawn Cemetery

    Peter married Annie Mary Elizabeth Taylor on 21 Apr 1897. Annie was born on 28 Mar 1875; died on 10 Apr 1942; was buried in Mt. Pleasant, Frederick Co., VA. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 20. Arthur T. Salzman  Descendancy chart to this point was born on 11 Jan 1899 in Merrimac, Jefferson Co., IA.
    2. 21. Josephine Salzman  Descendancy chart to this point was born on 27 Mar 1903.

  4. 10.  Joseph Arthur Salzman Descendancy chart to this point (2.Joseph2, 1.André1) was born on 25 Feb 1862 in Butler Co., OH; died on 9 Mar 1932 in Iowa City, Johnson Co., IA; was buried in Toledo, Tama Co., IA.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Occupation: Merchant

    Notes:

    Children: Nina b. 3 Aug 1889; Ray b. 30 Mar 1891

    Buried:
    Woodlawn Cemetery

    Family/Spouse: Sarah Hobbs. Sarah was born on 20 Sep 1865; died on 18 Jul 1949; was buried in Toledo, Tama Co., IA. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  5. 11.  Anna M. Salzman Descendancy chart to this point (2.Joseph2, 1.André1) was born on 7 Feb 1864 in Butler Co., OH; died on 17 Apr 1949; was buried in Troy, Miami Co., OH.

    Notes:

    Buried:
    Troy Cemetery

    Anna married Emil Peter Kennel on 27 Dec 1887 in Blue Ball,Butler Co., OH. Emil (son of Johannes “Little John” Kennel, Jr. and Emilie Iutzi) was born on 6 Dec 1862 in Butler Co., OH; died on 22 Apr 1941. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  6. 12.  Mary B. Salzman Descendancy chart to this point (2.Joseph2, 1.André1) was born on 12 Nov 1865 in Butler Co., OH; died on 19 Sep 1946; was buried in Trenton, Butler Co., OH.

    Notes:

    Buried:
    Mennonite Cemetery

    Mary married Elmer D. Conrad on 2 Jun 1897 in Hamilton, Butler Co., OH. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  7. 13.  John W. Salzman Descendancy chart to this point (4.Andrew2, 1.André1) was born on 28 May 1852 in Butler Co., OH; died on 12 Dec 1921 in Bloomington, McLean Co., IL; was buried in Carlock, McLean Co., IL.

    Notes:

    Obit:
    Mr. Salzman, aged 69 years died at Mennonite Hospital after a year long illness with cancer. He was the son of Andrew and Barbara Schmidt Salzman, born in Butler County, Ohio. At the age of 5 he came with his parents to McLean County. In 1873 he went to Henry County, IA where he married Nancy Roth on August 27, 1876. Four children were born: mrs. C. W. Rains of Fairfield, IA, Della M. who died in 1901, Arthur O. of this city and Mrs. W. E. Bengston of Aurora, IL. His wife died in 1890 and on November 17, 1891 he married Lucinda Roth of Trenton, IA and they had these children: Chester W., Walter E. and Raymond D., all of this city. He is survived by 2 brothers, Andrew R. of this city, and Samuel D. of Wheeler, WI and one sister, Mrs. August Dueschner of Normal. Following his second marriage, the couple returned to this city. Mr. Salzman was engaged in farming in Iowa and a few years in the implement business and was also engaged in the carpenter business, being at one time a contractor.

    Buried:
    Lantz Cemetery


  8. 14.  Andrew Benjamin Salzman Descendancy chart to this point (4.Andrew2, 1.André1) was born on 29 Jul 1855 in Butler Co., OH; died on 10 Nov 1930.

    Andrew married Elizabeth Kinsinger on 21 Mar 1878 in IL. Elizabeth (daughter of Johannes Kinsinger and Barbara P. Smith) was born on 3 May 1852 in Butler Co., OH; died on 18 Nov 1913 in Bloomington, McLean Co., IL. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 22. Aaron Cory Salzman  Descendancy chart to this point was born on 24 Oct 1884 in Hudson, McLean Co., IL; died on 26 Jan 1973 in Bloomington, McLean Co., IL.

  9. 15.  Christiana Salzman Descendancy chart to this point (4.Andrew2, 1.André1)

  10. 16.  Emmanuel Salzman Descendancy chart to this point (5.Christian2, 1.André1)

    Family/Spouse: Unknown. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 23. John E. Salzman  Descendancy chart to this point was born in 1898.

  11. 17.  Anna Troyer Ummel Descendancy chart to this point (6.Catharine2, 1.André1) was born in 1863; died in 1946.

    Family/Spouse: John Noah Troyer. John (son of Noah J. Troyer and Fannie Mast) was born in 1859; died in 1930; was buried in Carlock, McLean Co., IL. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 24. Oliver Manasses Troyer  Descendancy chart to this point was born on 30 Nov 1886 in Kalona, Washington Co., IA; died in 1962 in Woodford Co., IL; was buried in Eureka, Woodford Co., IL.

  12. 18.  Ella Troyer Descendancy chart to this point (6.Catharine2, 1.André1) was born on 21 Jan 1870 in IL; died on 22 Mar 1953 in Bloomington, McLean Co., IL; was buried in Carlock, Dry Grove Twp., McLean Co., IL.

    Notes:

    Died:
    Mennonite Hospital

    Buried:
    Troyer Cemetery

    Ella married George Christian Schertz on 21 Jan 1892 in Danvers, McLean Co., IL. George (son of Peter Schertz and Catherine Springer) was born on 29 Oct 1866 in Stanford, McLean Co., IL; died on 24 Dec 1944 in Hudson, McLean Co., IL; was buried in Carlock, Dry Grove Twp., McLean Co., IL. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 25. Lois Pearl Schertz  Descendancy chart to this point
    2. 26. Faith Evangeline Schertz  Descendancy chart to this point was born on 23 Apr 1907 in Hudson, McLean Co., IL; died on 18 Feb 1981 in Urbana, Champaign Co., IL; was buried in Fisher, Champaign Co., IL.
    3. 27. Eunice Schertz  Descendancy chart to this point

  13. 19.  Emanuel Troyer Descendancy chart to this point (6.Catharine2, 1.André1) was born in 1871; died in 1942; was buried in Carlock, McLean Co., IL.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • CLER: Y

    Notes:

    Buried:
    Troyer Cemetery



Generation: 4

  1. 20.  Arthur T. Salzman Descendancy chart to this point (9.Peter3, 2.Joseph2, 1.André1) was born on 11 Jan 1899 in Merrimac, Jefferson Co., IA.

    Arthur married Frances Dana Crane on 16 Jun 1932 in Mt. Pleasant, Henry Co., IA. Frances was born on 15 Jul 1900 in Mt. Pleasant, Henry Co., IA. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 28. Ann Crane Salzman  Descendancy chart to this point
    2. 29. Joan Dana Salzman  Descendancy chart to this point

  2. 21.  Josephine Salzman Descendancy chart to this point (9.Peter3, 2.Joseph2, 1.André1) was born on 27 Mar 1903.

  3. 22.  Aaron Cory Salzman Descendancy chart to this point (14.Andrew3, 4.Andrew2, 1.André1) was born on 24 Oct 1884 in Hudson, McLean Co., IL; died on 26 Jan 1973 in Bloomington, McLean Co., IL.

    Family/Spouse: Clara Luella Walter. Clara (daughter of John Daniel Walter and Madie Luella Oesch) was born on 26 Apr 1907 in Congerville, Montgomery Twp., Woodford Co., IL; died on 29 Feb 2008 in Bloomington, McLean Co., IL. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 30. Darrel Aaron Salzman  Descendancy chart to this point

  4. 23.  John E. Salzman Descendancy chart to this point (16.Emmanuel3, 5.Christian2, 1.André1) was born in 1898.

    Family/Spouse: Unknown. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 31. John Salzman  Descendancy chart to this point

  5. 24.  Oliver Manasses Troyer Descendancy chart to this point (17.Anna3, 6.Catharine2, 1.André1) was born on 30 Nov 1886 in Kalona, Washington Co., IA; died in 1962 in Woodford Co., IL; was buried in Eureka, Woodford Co., IL.

    Notes:

    Children: Claude A, Verna Mae, John, Robert, Oliver, Wayne, Donald, Ruth, & Fern
    Occupation: (1918) self employed machinist for threshing and corn shelling

    Buried:
    Olio Township Cemetery

    Oliver married Kate Unzicker in 1904. Kate was born in 1886; died in 1958; was buried in Eureka, Woodford Co., IL. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 32. Robert Emanuel Troyer  Descendancy chart to this point was born on 8 Jun 1916 in Stanford, McLean Co., IL; died on 13 Feb 2005 in Eureka, Woodford Co., IL; was buried in Roanoke, Woodford Co., IL.
    2. 33. Oliver M. Troyer  Descendancy chart to this point was born on 15 Dec 1917 in IL; died on 28 Jun 2007 in Zephyr Hills, FL; was buried in Eureka, Woodford Co., IL.

  6. 25.  Lois Pearl Schertz Descendancy chart to this point (18.Ella3, 6.Catharine2, 1.André1)

  7. 26.  Faith Evangeline Schertz Descendancy chart to this point (18.Ella3, 6.Catharine2, 1.André1) was born on 23 Apr 1907 in Hudson, McLean Co., IL; died on 18 Feb 1981 in Urbana, Champaign Co., IL; was buried in Fisher, Champaign Co., IL.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Occupation: Farmer And Gave Piano Lessons
    • Religion: Mennonite

    Notes:

    Obit:
    Zehr, Faith E., daughter of George and Ella (Troyer) Schertz, was born in Hudson, Ill., Apr. 22, 1907; died at Mercy Hospital, Urbana, Ill., Feb. 18, 1981; aged 73 y. On Feb. 14, 1939, she was married to Lester Zehr, who died on May 22, 1962. She is survived by one daughter (Mariella K. Brandt), 3 sons (John, Daniel, and Robert), and one sister (Eunice Foster). She was a member of the East Bend Mennonite Church, where funeral services were held on Feb. 20, in charge of Ted Wentland; interment in church cemetery.

    Buried:
    East Bend Mennonite Cemetery

    Faith married Lester Raymond Zehr on 14 Feb 1939 in Hudson, McLean Co., IL. Lester (son of Daniel Peter Zehr and Mollie Ann Birkey) was born on 16 May 1909 in Foosland, Champaign Co., IL; died on 22 May 1962 in Fisher, Champaign Co., IL; was buried in Fisher, Champaign Co., IL. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 34. John David Zehr  Descendancy chart to this point was born on 27 Feb 1940 in Bloomington, McLean Co., IL; died on 3 Dec 2018 in Champaign, Champaign Co., IL; was buried on 7 Dec 2018 in Fisher, Champaign Co., IL.
    2. 35. Lester Daniel Zehr  Descendancy chart to this point was born on 9 Aug 1941 in Urbana, Champaign Co., IL; died on 28 Dec 2020 in Gibson City, Ford Co., IL; was buried in Fisher, Champaign Co., IL.
    3. 36. Lois Zehr  Descendancy chart to this point
    4. 37. Robert Earl Zehr  Descendancy chart to this point was born on 27 Sep 1947 in Champaign Co., IL; died in Jun 2023.
    5. 38. Mariella Kay Zehr  Descendancy chart to this point

  8. 27.  Eunice Schertz Descendancy chart to this point (18.Ella3, 6.Catharine2, 1.André1)


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