Magdalena Stalter

Other Events and Attributes:

• Reference Number: 90
• Religion: Amish Mennonite
• RWDN: S244
• Immigration: 26 Dec 1839

Notes:

Accompanied the Yotty’s to America according to source .

Magdalena married Christian Rupp in 1840-1841 in New Orleans, LA. Christian was born in 1811-1813; died on 29 Jun 1865 in New Orleans, LA. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• Occupation: Hofbesitzer In Germany (Estate/farm Possesser/owner)
• Religion: Mennonite
• PURC: 1802-1803, Gern, Munich, Bavaria, GR
• PURC: 6 Aug 1830, Gern, Munich, Bavaria, GR
• Immigration: 1842, New Orleans, LA - Then Tazewell Co. IL.

Notes:

Went to Bavaria in 1802. Owner of the grounds of the St. Theresa Cloister at Gern near Munich. Went to the USA with 8 children in 1842. One son, Jakob, stayed in Germany (page 248.) However, he probably only traveled with seven children, since Jakob stayed in Europe and Elizabeth immigrated with Christian Birki in 1851.

“At age 26, Heinrich Stalter II accompanied his widowed mother and two younger siblings, Johannes and Maria, to Upper Bavaria. From 1803 until 1806 it is unclear where they lived specifically, but it is thought that they initially went to an area near Donauworth, some 35 miles north of Munich. By 1807, Heinrich II was married to a woman named Jakobine Stalter. It is unclear whether her surname Stalter was only her married name or if Heinrich married a girl with the maiden name of Stalter. Heinrich II became owner of two estates of a former Catholic cloister located at Gern near Munich. (This area is 1.4 miles east of the center of downtown Munich today. The abbey that was subsequently returned to the Catholic church is now the Kloster St. Theresa). The estates became central habitation points for Heinrich's siblings. His brothers, Johannes, Jacob, and Josef all lived at the estates at one time. Heinrich and Jacobina had a son, Jakob, born July 22, 1807. Over the next 35 years, Heinrich and Jacobina raised a family (nine children) and successfully operated their estates. In operating their lands, they employed a number of Amish workers. Among these were Valentine Birkey and Nicholas Augstein (Eigsti) although their involvement in the operations is vague. There were a number of marriages among the families of the Stalters, Birkeys and Augsteins. By 1842, Jacobina had died. Several of Heinrich's children had already left Bavaria for America. Heinrich disposed of his assets in Germany and, with several of his children, emigrated to America. Although the passenger list with Heinrich's emigration data has not been located, Guth reports his emigration occurred in 1842. What is known is that he after he arrived in Illinois, he lived with various family members, including his daughter, Catherina Stalter Yotty in Tazewell County in 1850. There is no historic evidence that he purchased any real property in America, not unexpected given his advanced age at the time he immigrated. He died sometime between 1852 and 1860 in Tazewell County, Illinois and is buried in the Birki Cemetery, just north of Groveland. His daughter, Elizabeth, was the second wife of Christian Birki on whose farm the Birki Cemetery is located. “

While in Bavaria, Heinrich was one of the signatories to a letter sent March 18, 1811, to King Maximilian I. Joseph (ruler from 1806-1825). In it the “Elders of the Menonists” of the dairy farm Oberndorf, appealed to the King for permission to hire their own private instructors to educate their children in their own catechism, since he had allowed them freedom of religion. But “some of the community have received legal orders to send their children to school a good half hour away.”

The answer came to them on Sept. 11, 1811, that “attendance of the local school remained compulsory, but the Mennonite children were not compelled to participate in religious instruction.”

Others signing the letter were: Christian Güngerich, Christian Bürcky, Johannes Bächler.

Birth:
Kirschbacherhof

PURC:
Awarded “outright” ownership of the cloister of St. Theresa at Gern by Max Joseph of Bavaria.
Elector Max IV Joseph signed a lease in July 1803 for the “Ditzschen Hof” in Gern at Nymphenburg to the ”Mennonite Stalter the older.”

PURC:
Heinrich buys from the Bavarian Queen Friederike Wilhelmine Caroline von Bayern, widow of the late King of Bavaria, the Holzbauer property: house No. 2 with 155 daily work of 2.720 guilders. In the emigration documents Heinrich has sold his property in 1841 for 10,766 guilders. (A Bavarian daily work has 3407 sqm = 36,672.64 sqft)?

Immigration:
According to Herbert Holly research, Heinrich Stalter had considered the idea of emigrating, but his wife was against it even though three children were already living in the USA. It was only after the death of his wife that Heinrich made the decision to emigrate with his family. He applied to emigrate on August 28, 1841, which was approved.




Buried:
Birki Cemetery, Groveland Twp., Section 22: https://www.findagrave.com/cemetery/2596053/birki-cemetery/map#share_email

Heinrich married Jakobine Stalter about 1806. Jakobine was born about 1790; died on 11 Oct 1834 in Bavaria, GR. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• Reference Number: 50
• Religion: Mennonite

Notes:

Died:
at 44 years of age

Other Events and Attributes:

• Occupation: Farmer at Tenscherhof in 1750
• Reference Number: 61
• Religion: Mennonite
• Residence: 1750, Sarralbe, Moselle, FR
• Residence: 1770, Homburg, Saarland, GR
• Residence: Abt 1776, Zweibrücken, Rheinland-Pfalz, GR
• Residence: 1777, Sarralbe, Moselle, FR
• Residence: Abt 1802-1803, Gern, Munich, Bavaria, GR

Notes:

Heinrich was leaseholder on Kirschbacherhof (near Zweibrrücken, GR), a very old and sizable ducal estate which is known from documentary sources as early as 1295. The original buildings were destroyed during the Revolution and the present ones were rebuilt in the early 1800s.
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“ Henry Stalter, born in 1725 in Zweibrücken, was a farmer there since at least 1750 when his wife gave birth to a child named Christian, and that first wife died before 1776. Since that year, his second wife, Catherine Imhoff gave birth to two son to Homburg Saar, Henry named the youth, and Jacques (quoted above at Haras). The family is back at Tenscherhof in 1777, year of birth of a daughter. Two daughters died in 1794 aged 23 years, and Henry Stalter, father, dies Tenscherhof, February 23, 1800.“


A Brief History of The Kirschbacher Hof and the Ducal Family That Owned It

“The Kirschbacher Hof estate was the birthplace of our ancestor, Heinrich Stalter. This estate is located on the western edge of present-day Germany, near the city of Zweibrücken, close to Luxembourg and Lorraine, France.

“This estate is very old and is documented back to 1295. Duke Johann I purchased it at the end of the 1500s and gave it to his hunting master Christian von Bernstein. It was he, too, who built the Kirschbach mill.

“In 1737, the widowed Countess Palatine Caroline, née Countess of Nassau-Saarbrücken, as ruling sovereign and guardian over her minor son Christian, bought the estate for 12600 guilders and leased it to the Mennonite Heinrich Stalter. Historians consider her an especially prudent and active sovereign.

“The members of the ducal family preferred to stay at this estate during hunting. The grandsons of the Duke’s mother, the Counts Palatine Karl and Max, and the Counts of Forbach, Christian and Willhelm, were frequent hunting guests and, in this way became acquainted with the tenant Heinrich Stalter, which later proved to be advantageous for the Stalter family.

“In 1762, Duke Christian IV took over the estate from his mother and granted it to his sons. Then Duke Karl II August seized the estate again and donated it as perviously mentioned, to his wife Amilie.

“During the French Revolution (started in 1789 and lasting about a quarter of a century), French troops moved across the border into German territory and set fire to the estate. (The French Revolution was about eliminating the ruling class so estates such as this became targets.) Heinrich Stalter and his family were forced to leave the estate and find temporary shelter on another estate, the Bickenaschbacher Hof, where Heinrich’s eldest son, Christian Stalter, was living.”

At the beginning of 1800 the family moved to Bavaria, near Munich, living on property in Gern near the Nymphenburg palace.

Heinrich was a friend of King Maximillian I Joseph of Bavaria. He is known to have at least six children, but probably had four more. Hermann Guth read documents in the archives in Neuburg telling how Heinrich complained to neighbors and acquaintances that a monestary at Thierhaupten (near Hemerten) was sold for too low a price. The story reached King Max, who insisted that the price be increased. He trusted Heinrich's judgement enough to act upon it.

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Birth:
(an hour away from Grostenquin/Linstroff)

Residence:
Tencherhof estate--son Christian born there

Residence:
Lingenhof estate--son Josef born there

Residence:
Kirschbacherhof: Three children born there: Heinrich, Johannes and Maria

Residence:
Tenscherhof

Died:
Tenscherhof

Heinrich married Katharina Imhoff before 1770. Katharina was born in 1744. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• Reference Number: 62
• Religion: Mennonite
• Residence: 1802, Bavaria, GR

Notes:

Katherina was Heinrich's second wife. The first is not known.

Residence:
Left with her children for Bavaria after Heinrich’s death

Other Events and Attributes:

• EARL: Y
• Occupation: Farmer
• Reference Number: 63
• Religion: Amish Mennonite
• Residence: 1742, Zweibrücken, Rheinland-Pfalz, GR

Notes:

“The exact home of the Stalter family in Switzerland is not known. Ernst Muller, in his Geschichte der Bernischen Taufer, mentions a Barbe Stalter, who came with two children to the Palatinate in 1672, together with other refugees, leaving seven children behind.

"The name Stalter/Stalder is probably derived from one of the countless towns named Stalden which can be found in nearly every Swiss canton. The first Stalters in the vicinity of Zweibrücken appeared in 1742 on the Gersbergerhof, where at that time a leaseholder Christian Stalter lived with his son. In addition another leaseholder, Hans Stalter, with two sons and four daughters, and a day-laborer, Hans Stalter, with two daughters, are mentioned.

"It appears that Hans Stalter, married to Elisabeth Weiss, had two sons by the names of Johannes Stalter and Heinrich Stalter, who became the progenitors of two branches of the Stalter family. One branch still exists today (the descendants of Johannes), but the other has largely died out (the descendants of Heinrich), at least in the area around Zweibrücken. To be sure emigration contributed to this, as well as the fact that in one generation the children of several families remained unmarried. Was there perhaps a hereditary illness which caused responsible people to decide not to marry?"
It is believed/known that the descendants of Heinrich either did not have children, and/or those that did, immigrated to America.” , ,,

Birth:
Gersbergerhof, GR

Residence:
Leaseholder on the Gersbergerhof

Johannes + Elisabeth Weiss. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• Reference Number: 64
• Religion: Amish Mennonite