Elisabeth Sutter: The Schrock-Birkey Connection

Elisabeth Sutter

Female 1836 - 1884  (48 years)


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Generation: 1

  1. 1.  Elisabeth Sutter was born on 1 Mar 1836 in Neuberg-an-Donau, Bavaria, GR (daughter of Johannes Sutter (Suttor) and Barbara Oesch); died on 30 Jun 1884 in Groveland, Tazewell Co., IL; was buried in Groveland, Tazewell Co., IL.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Census: 1860, Tremont, Tazewell Co., IL

    Notes:



    Birth:
    Forsthof estate at Bergen

    Census:
    Farmer Joseph Miller, 30, Germany; Elizabeth, 24, Germany; Barbaray, 5, Illinois; John, 4, Illinois; Joseph, 2, Illinois; Catharine, 16, Ohio; and Elizabeth, 12, Ohio.

    Buried:
    Groveland Evangelical Mennonite Cemetery

    Elisabeth married Joseph Miller on 8 Jan 1854 in Tazewell Co., IL. Joseph was born about 1830 in Tazewell Co., IL; died on 11 Sep 1868. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. Barbara Miller was born on 25 Oct 1854; died on 20 Nov 1926; was buried in Milford, Seward Co., NE.
    2. Elizabeth Miller was born on 15 Jul 1863 in Tremont, Tazewell Co., IL; died on 3 Jan 1938 in Groveland, Tazewell Co., IL; was buried in Groveland, Tazewell Co., IL.

    Elisabeth married Johann Ackerman on 9 Feb 1871 in Tazewell Co., IL. Johann (son of Jacob Ackerman and Katherina Reidiger) was born on 24 May 1819 in Kofering, Bavaria, GR; died on 28 Oct 1891 in Groveland, Tazewell Co., IL; was buried in Groveland, Tazewell Co., IL. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. Sarah Ackerman
    2. Abraham Ackerman

Generation: 2

  1. 2.  Johannes Sutter (Suttor) was born on 26 Dec 1796 in Lindelbrunnerhof Bei Annweiler, Palatinate, GR (son of Johannes Sutor and Magdalena Stähli); died on 2 Aug 1887 in Morton Twp., Tazewell Co., IL; was buried in Aug 1887 in Groveland, Tazewell Co., IL.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Occupation: Estate manager/Minister/farmer - Bauer in Dittenfeld
    • Religion: Amish
    • Residence: 1825-27, Probfeld, Bavaria, GR
    • Ordained: 19 May 1824, Bavaria, GR
    • Immigration: 11 Nov 1851, New York, NY
    • Census: 1860, Morton Twp., Tazewell Co., IL

    Notes:



    Birth:
    One history has the year 1795. Source #360 gives birthplace as Münchweiler (probably Münchweiler an der Rodalbe.

    Residence:
    John and Barbara were born there

    Immigration:
    From Le Havre. After 36 day voyage on the Samuel L. Fox (left Le Havre about 5 Oct 1851).
    https://www.immigrantships.net/v3/1800v3/samuelmfox18511111_01.html

    Census:
    pg. 149 farmer John Sutter, 65, Germany; Barbara, 61; Andrew, 19; Andrew Buky [son-in-law Andrew Birkey], 29; Fanny [Veronica], 22; and Barbara, 1, born in Illinois.

    Buried:
    Birky-Landes Mennonite Cemetery - Grave #36 on printed plot map, or Plot #2 on the 8/12/2013 version.

    Johannes married Barbara Oesch on 31 Oct 1819 in Hanfeld, Bavaria, GR. Barbara (daughter of Christian N. Oesch and Katharina Burki) was born on 24 Jun 1799 in Saarbuckenheim, Alsace, FR; died on 10 Sep 1884 in Morton, Tazewell Co., IL; was buried in Groveland, Tazewell Co., IL. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  2. 3.  Barbara Oesch was born on 24 Jun 1799 in Saarbuckenheim, Alsace, FR (daughter of Christian N. Oesch and Katharina Burki); died on 10 Sep 1884 in Morton, Tazewell Co., IL; was buried in Groveland, Tazewell Co., IL.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Religion: Amish Mennonite

    Notes:



    Birth:
    (Sarre-Union) Day could be read Jun 23 or 27 just as well.

    Buried:
    Landes Cemetery - Grave #10 on printed plot map dated 8/12/2013.

    Notes:

    Married:
    Near Lake Starnberg, below Munich. They were first cousins.

    Children:
    1. Magdalena Sutter was born on 22 Jul 1821 in Neuberg-an-Donau, Bavaria, GR; died on 24 Feb 1909 in Milford, Seward Co., NE; was buried in Milford, Seward Co., NE.
    2. Christian Sutter was born on 21 Apr 1823 in Neuberg-an-Donau, Bavaria, GR; died on 11 May 1899 in Hopedale, Tazewell Co., IL; was buried on 14 May 1899 in Hopedale, Tazewell Co., IL.
    3. John (Johann) Sutter was born on 14 Mar 1825 in Probfeld, Bavaria, GR; died on 11 Dec 1904 in Hopedale, Tazewell Co., IL; was buried in Hopedale, Tazewell Co., IL.
    4. Barbara Sutter was born on 1 Feb 1827 in Probfeld, Bavaria, GR; died on 10 Jan 1903 in Fisher, Champaign Co., IL; was buried in Fisher, Champaign Co., IL.
    5. Joseph (Josef) Sutter (Suttor) was born on 10 Oct 1829 in Neuberg-an-Donau, Bavaria, GR; died on 26 Sep 1860 in Eureka, Woodford Co., IL; was buried in Woodford Co., IL.
    6. Katharina Sutter was born on 23 Aug 1831 in Neuberg-an-Donau, Bavaria, GR; died on 28 Jan 1888 in IL; was buried in Roanoke, Woodford Co., IL.
    7. Jakob Sutter was born on 27 Nov 1833 in Neuberg-an-Donau, Bavaria, GR; died on 26 Feb 1923 in Milford, Seward Co., NE; was buried in Milford, Seward Co., NE.
    8. 1. Elisabeth Sutter was born on 1 Mar 1836 in Neuberg-an-Donau, Bavaria, GR; died on 30 Jun 1884 in Groveland, Tazewell Co., IL; was buried in Groveland, Tazewell Co., IL.
    9. Veronica (Fannie) Sutter was born on 11 Nov 1838 in Neuberg-an-Donau, Bavaria, GR; died on 16 Apr 1927 in Fisher, Champaign Co., IL; was buried in Apr 1927 in Fisher, Champaign Co., IL.
    10. Andrew J. (Andréas Johannes) Sutter was born on 15 May 1841 in Neuberg-an-Donau, Bavaria, GR; died on 8 Feb 1921 in Phoenix, Maricopa Co., AZ; was buried in Woods Co., OK.


Generation: 3

  1. 4.  Johannes Sutor was born in 1765; died on 1 Jun 1844 in Ingolstadt, Bavaria, GR; was buried in Hellmannsburg, Bavaria, GR.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • EARL: Y
    • Occupation: Estate Manager/Farmer
    • Religion: Amish Mennonite
    • Residence: Bef 1796, St. Goarshausen, Nassau-Weilburg, GR
    • Residence: 1796, Probfeld, Bavaria, GR
    • Residence: Bef 1804, Annweiler, Palatinate, GR
    • Residence: 1804-1811, Kaisheim, Bavaria, GR
    • Residence: 1 Oct 1811, Neuberg-an-Donau, Bavaria, GR

    Notes:

    Suttor/Sutor/Sutter/Suter is a Mennonite family name with Swiss origins. More than likely this surname is derived from the Latin expression for a shoemaker-- sutor.

    “Before it began to be drained, the Donaumoos (Danube marsh) was the largest bog in Southern Germany. In 1790 the Bavarian elector Charles Theodor began to invite Mennonites to settle in the inhospitable 120-square-mile area area, offering incentives for recaimation and cultivation. In 1802 over 120 Mennonite families were permitted to settle there, and many of the families remained until the '48er wave of emigration. Entries for Mennonite families in the Donaumoos such as Sutter, Oesch, and Ingold can also be found in Catholic records at Karlskron.”

    Johannes Sutor and three of his children were born at Hellmansburg. Many family members are buried there also. The largest of the markers in the cemetery reads:

    Here rest the bones (remains) of the deceased Christian Sutterich family.
    Father, Mother, Wife, Children. God has received (accepted) them so he
    will receive (accept) me too. Before God's face we will meet (see each other) again.
    Johannes Sutter, the ancestor (forefather) born 1765, died June 1, 1844
    left 2 sons and 2 daughters and 33 grandchildren. Of the Mennonite religion.

    Birth:
    “Johannes Suttor was born circa 1764. A report for the birth of one of his children gives his birthplace. The document – written by a municipal clerk at Karlskron, 7 miles south of Ingolstadt – stated that he was born on the 'Lindenbrunnerhof bei Annweiler.' This may have been either of two locations. The first possibility is the LindeLbrunnerhof farm between Darstein and Münchweiler am Klingbach, about 4 miles from Annweiler. However, there is a good case to be made for the LindeNbrunnerhof farm at Heltersberg, only a few miles from Lemberg, Pirmasens, and Münchweiler an der Rodalbe but 18 miles from Annweiler. One strong clue seems to point to the Lindenbrunnerhof: an Ingold family that lived there also lived with them in other locations, intermarried with the Sutters, and now has descendants in Tazewell County.”

    Residence:
    at the Rhine River

    Residence:
    at the time of Johannes’ and Barbara’s birth

    Residence:
    Lindelbrunnerhof, 4 mi. from Annweiler

    Residence:
    Former Cistercian monastery (tenant, along with Friedrich Hage). This estate had belonged to a Catholic abbey before it was secularized in 1803. During the time the Sutters lived there the grounds were used to grow food for the Bavarian army; after 1811 it was used to house displaced Franciscans, then converted into a prison.

    Residence:
    Forsthof, a Jesuit estate (with Friedrich Hage). In this time frame about 50 Mennonite families were given formerly Catholic properties between Neuberg and Ingolstadt, as the government encouraged cultivation of the Danube Marsh.

    Buried:
    Hellmansburg Sutter Cemetery

    Johannes married Magdalena Stähli in 1788 in Palatinate, GR. Magdalena (daughter of Johannes Jorg Stähli (Staehly) and Anna Kinzinger) was born in 1765 in Oberstraysa, Fränkisch-Crumbach, GR; died in Hellmannsburg, Bavaria, GR; was buried in Hellmannsburg, Bavaria, GR. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  2. 5.  Magdalena Stähli was born in 1765 in Oberstraysa, Fränkisch-Crumbach, GR (daughter of Johannes Jorg Stähli (Staehly) and Anna Kinzinger); died in Hellmannsburg, Bavaria, GR; was buried in Hellmannsburg, Bavaria, GR.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Religion: Amish Mennonite

    Notes:

    From Frankish-Crumbach (Odenwald), according to Guth.

    Birth:
    http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/h/o/w/Susan-J-Howard/WEBSITE-0001/UHP-0186.html

    Buried:
    Hellmansburg Sutter Cemetery

    Children:
    1. Christian Suttor was born on 21 Jul 1788 in Munchweiler, Palatinate, GR; died on 12 Mar 1863 in Hellmannsburg, Bavaria, GR; was buried in Hellmannsburg, Bavaria, GR.
    2. Elizabeth Sutter was born in 1791 in Munchweiler, Palatinate, GR; died on 25 Jul 1861 in Niederschoenfield, Donaue, GR.
    3. Katharina Suttor (Sutter) was born on 24 Aug 1794 in Munchweiler, Palatinate, GR; died on 27 Nov 1872 in Neuberg-an-Donau, Bavaria, GR.
    4. 2. Johannes Sutter (Suttor) was born on 26 Dec 1796 in Lindelbrunnerhof Bei Annweiler, Palatinate, GR; died on 2 Aug 1887 in Morton Twp., Tazewell Co., IL; was buried in Aug 1887 in Groveland, Tazewell Co., IL.

  3. 6.  Christian N. Oesch was born about 1755 in Lorentzen, Bas-Rhin, FR (son of Abraham Oesch (Esch) and Anna Koch); died on 29 Mar 1834 in Hanfeld, Bavaria, GR; was buried in Mar 1834 in Hanfeld, Bavaria, GR.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Occupation: Farmer
    • Religion: Mennonite
    • Immigration: Abt 1803, Hanfeld, Bavaria, GR
    • Residence: 1803, Hanfeld, Bavaria, GR

    Notes:

    Oesch Swiss roots begin in Oberlangenegg, a district far in the valley beyond Schwarzenegg. Here lived Taufer named Oesch. The Steffisburg, Switzerland records speak of Uli Osch, "The exiled disobedient Anabaptist," whose son Christian was baptized in 1684. It is easy to conclude that the family had to flee to the hills. This family later moved on to Alsace and the Palatinate and produced a large progeny of Amish Mennonites.

    It was in connection with the resettlement of Amish tenants from the Alsace and the Palatinate to Bavaria, encouraged by the Elector Max (the later King Max I. Joseph of Bavaria) that Christian Oesch (1755) and his wife, Katharina Burki, and seven children immigrated to Hanfeld near Starnberg about 1803.

    Christian and his family came from Saarbuckenheim (Sarre-Union in French) in the "crooked Alsace" and was born on the Waderhof (beo Diemeringen in Unterelsass, 1803 nach Hanfeld) near Lorenzen about 1755. At Hanfeld, Christian owned the "zum Streicher" estate in this purely-Catholic village south of Munich. The native population was not friendly to these new Mennonite settlers.

    They refused to permit any Mennonite burials in their cemetery and forced the Mennonites to bury their dead in a meadow instead. The local Catholic priest even insisted upon the Mennonites paying him for his usual fee when someone died. Christian, as well as his son, Andréas, refused to make the payment after Christian's wife, Katharina's, death. As a result, the priest informed the government and was told that he could sue for the fee at court. The Munich State Archives reports that apparently no action was taken. The old Mennonite cemetery at Hanfeld no longer exists today.

    Birth:
    Waderhof

    Immigration:
    Court Starnberg, with seven children. Besitzer des Streicherhofes

    Residence:
    Moved here from Sarre-Union

    Died:
    Court Starnberg

    Buried:
    Oesch Cemetery

    Christian married Katharina Burki in 1783. Katharina was born in 1764 in Lorentzen, Bas-Rhin, FR; died on 6 Mar 1829 in Hanfeld, Bavaria, GR; was buried in Mar 1829 in Hanfeld, Bavaria, GR. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  4. 7.  Katharina Burki was born in 1764 in Lorentzen, Bas-Rhin, FR; died on 6 Mar 1829 in Hanfeld, Bavaria, GR; was buried in Mar 1829 in Hanfeld, Bavaria, GR.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Occupation: Farmer’s daughter
    • Religion: Mennonite

    Notes:

    Who was Katharina/Catherine Bürki, who married Christian Oesch/Christian N. Oesch, and died at Hanfeld March 6, 1829?  We could make two reasonable guesses, but the information to verify them is lacking.  She may have been a sister to Christian 'Christel' Bürcky/Bircki ('Big Birkeys'), who was born circa 1760; this would make sense because of Christel's link to the Gentersberg estate (and presumably to the nearby Dorsterhof estate) where Oesches farmed.  Or, she may have been a sister to Johannes Birky or Bircki ('Little Red Birkys'), who was born circa 1748.  This would make sense because his son Andreas/André/Andrew owned property at Söcking, which is now part of Hanfeld.

    According to Rudolf Ingold and Hermann Guth, the Mennonite tenants at Hanfeld fell into a disagreement with local Catholic clerics, and were obliged to bury their dead in a meadow. When Katharina/Catherine Bürki died in 1829, one priest asked for a death fee. Christian refused, and the priest complained to the local administration. He was told that he could take the matter to court, but no action was taken.

    Birth:
    Waderhof estate

    Died:
    Court Starnberg

    Buried:
    Oesch Cemetery

    Children:
    1. Johann Oesch was born in 1783 in Lorentzen, Bas-Rhin, FR.
    2. Magdalena Oesch was born in 1786 in Saare-Union, Bas-Rhin, Alsace, FR; died on 27 Jan 1859 in Beigarten, Bavaria, GR.
    3. Christian Oesch was born on 15 Oct 1789 in Saare-Union, Bas-Rhin, Alsace, FR; died on 23 Jun 1844 in Neuberg-an-Donau, Bavaria, GR.
    4. Andréas Oesch was born in 1791 in Lorentzen, Bas-Rhin, FR; died on 30 Apr 1869 in Hanfeld, Bavaria, GR.
    5. Josef Oesch was born in 1794; died on 30 Nov 1866 in Hanfeld, Bavaria, GR.
    6. 3. Barbara Oesch was born on 24 Jun 1799 in Saarbuckenheim, Alsace, FR; died on 10 Sep 1884 in Morton, Tazewell Co., IL; was buried in Groveland, Tazewell Co., IL.
    7. Maria Oesch was born on 5 Feb 1802 in Saarbuckenheim, Alsace, FR; died on 30 Jan 1870 in Klinghof, GR.
    8. Veronica Oesch was born about 1804 in Hanfeld, Bavaria, GR; died on 22 Mar 1829 in Hanfeld, Bavaria, GR.
    9. Anna Oesch was born in 1806; died on 8 Dec 1869 in Hanfeld, Bavaria, GR.


Generation: 4

  1. 10.  Johannes Jorg Stähli (Staehly) was born on 23 Feb 1723 in Sembach, GR (son of Kasper Stähli (Staehly) and Magdalena Madie Schedeberger).

    Notes:



    Birth:
    Northeast of Kaiserslautern

    Johannes married Anna Kinzinger on 23 Feb 1723 in Sembach, GR. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  2. 11.  Anna Kinzinger
    Children:
    1. Johannes Stahli was born in 1750; died in 1832.
    2. Heinrich Stahli was born in 1751; died in 1826.
    3. Jacob Stähly was born on 25 Jul 1752 in Enkenbach, Palatinate, GR; died on 26 Jul 1822 in Fränkisch-Crumbach, Hesse, GR.
    4. 5. Magdalena Stähli was born in 1765 in Oberstraysa, Fränkisch-Crumbach, GR; died in Hellmannsburg, Bavaria, GR; was buried in Hellmannsburg, Bavaria, GR.
    5. Maria Stahli

  3. 12.  Abraham Oesch (Esch) was born in 1730 in Ingwiller, Bas-Rhin, Alsace, FR (son of Johannes Oesch (Esch)); died on 14 Aug 1830 in Ingwiller, Bas-Rhin, Alsace, FR.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • CLER: Y
    • Occupation: Ancien De Rauschenbourg Fermier
    • USR1: Mennonite
    • Residence: 1776, Ingwiller, Bas-Rhin, Alsace, FR

    Notes:

    Settled at Hagenau, Lower Alsace (14 miles east of Ingwilller) in 1755; became a minister under his father-in-law Nikolaus Koch; and died before Aug. 14, 1836.

    In 1776 Abraham and Anna lived on the Rauschenburg Estate near Ingweiler, Alsace, France. Abraham was an elder of the Rauschenburg congregation near Ingweiler, according to a Dutch list of preachers.

    Birth:
    Rauschenbourg esstate

    Residence:
    Rauschenbourg estate

    Died:
    Rauschenbourg esstate

    Abraham + Anna Koch. Anna (daughter of Nikolaus Koch) died before 14 Aug 1836 in Hanviller, Moselle, FR. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  4. 13.  Anna Koch (daughter of Nikolaus Koch); died before 14 Aug 1836 in Hanviller, Moselle, FR.
    Children:
    1. 6. Christian N. Oesch was born about 1755 in Lorentzen, Bas-Rhin, FR; died on 29 Mar 1834 in Hanfeld, Bavaria, GR; was buried in Mar 1834 in Hanfeld, Bavaria, GR.
    2. Madeleine Oesch (Esch) was born in 1756 in Ingwiller, Bas-Rhin, Alsace, FR; died on 18 Jan 1807 in Bourscheid, Moselle, FR.
    3. Barbara Oesch (Esch) was born in Ingwiller, Bas-Rhin, Alsace, FR; died on 7 Sep 1821 in Gilchenbach, Bavaria, GR.
    4. Catherine Oesch was born in Ingwiller, Bas-Rhin, Alsace, FR.
    5. Nicolas Oesch was born in 1760 in Ingwiller, Bas-Rhin, Alsace, FR; died on 17 Dec 1813 in Bourscheid, Moselle, FR.
    6. Anna Esch was born in 1763 in Ingwiller, Bas-Rhin, Alsace, FR; died on 14 Aug 1836 in Hanviller, Moselle, FR.


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