Johannes Sutter (Suttor)

Other Events and Attributes:

• Occupation: Estate manager/Minister/farmer - Bauer in Dittenfeld
• Religion: Amish
• Residence: 1825-27, Probfeld, Bavaria, GR
• Ordained: 19 May 1824, Bavaria, GR
• Immigration: 11 Nov 1851, New York, NY
• Census: 1860, Morton Twp., Tazewell Co., IL

Notes:

Birth:
One history has the year 1795. Source #360 gives birthplace as Münchweiler (probably Münchweiler an der Rodalbe.

Residence:
John and Barbara were born there

Immigration:
From Le Havre. After 36 day voyage on the Samuel L. Fox (left Le Havre about 5 Oct 1851).
https://www.immigrantships.net/v3/1800v3/samuelmfox18511111_01.html

Census:
pg. 149 farmer John Sutter, 65, Germany; Barbara, 61; Andrew, 19; Andrew Buky [son-in-law Andrew Birkey], 29; Fanny [Veronica], 22; and Barbara, 1, born in Illinois.

Buried:
Birky-Landes Mennonite Cemetery - Grave #36 on printed plot map, or Plot #2 on the 8/12/2013 version.

Johannes married Barbara Oesch on 31 Oct 1819 in Hanfeld, Bavaria, GR. Barbara (daughter of Christian N. Oesch and Katharina Burki) was born on 24 Jun 1799 in Saarbuckenheim, Alsace, FR; died on 10 Sep 1884 in Morton, Tazewell Co., IL; was buried in Groveland, Tazewell Co., IL. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

Married:
Near Lake Starnberg, below Munich. They were first cousins.

1. Magdalena Sutter was born on 22 Jul 1821 in Neuberg-an-Donau, Bavaria, GR; died on 24 Feb 1909 in Milford, Seward Co., NE; was buried in Milford, Seward Co., NE.
2. Christian Sutter was born on 21 Apr 1823 in Neuberg-an-Donau, Bavaria, GR; died on 11 May 1899 in Hopedale, Tazewell Co., IL; was buried on 14 May 1899 in Hopedale, Tazewell Co., IL.
3. John (Johann) Sutter was born on 14 Mar 1825 in Probfeld, Bavaria, GR; died on 11 Dec 1904 in Hopedale, Tazewell Co., IL; was buried in Hopedale, Tazewell Co., IL.
4. Barbara Sutter was born on 1 Feb 1827 in Probfeld, Bavaria, GR; died on 10 Jan 1903 in Fisher, Champaign Co., IL; was buried in Fisher, Champaign Co., IL.
5. Joseph (Josef) Sutter (Suttor) was born on 10 Oct 1829 in Neuberg-an-Donau, Bavaria, GR; died on 26 Sep 1860 in Eureka, Woodford Co., IL; was buried in Woodford Co., IL.
6. Katharina Sutter was born on 23 Aug 1831 in Neuberg-an-Donau, Bavaria, GR; died on 28 Jan 1888 in IL; was buried in Roanoke, Woodford Co., IL.
7. Jakob Sutter was born on 27 Nov 1833 in Neuberg-an-Donau, Bavaria, GR; died on 26 Feb 1923 in Milford, Seward Co., NE; was buried in Milford, Seward Co., NE.
8. Elisabeth Sutter was born on 1 Mar 1836 in Neuberg-an-Donau, Bavaria, GR; died on 30 Jun 1884 in Groveland, Tazewell Co., IL; was buried in Groveland, Tazewell Co., IL.
9. Veronica (Fannie) Sutter was born on 11 Nov 1838 in Neuberg-an-Donau, Bavaria, GR; died on 16 Apr 1927 in Fisher, Champaign Co., IL; was buried in Apr 1927 in Fisher, Champaign Co., IL.
10. Andrew J. (Andréas Johannes) Sutter was born on 15 May 1841 in Neuberg-an-Donau, Bavaria, GR; died on 8 Feb 1921 in Phoenix, Maricopa Co., AZ; was buried in Woods Co., OK.

Other Events and Attributes:

• EARL: Y
• Occupation: Estate Manager/Farmer
• Religion: Amish Mennonite
• Residence: Bef 1796, St. Goarshausen, Nassau-Weilburg, GR
• Residence: 1796, Probfeld, Bavaria, GR
• Residence: Bef 1804, Annweiler, Palatinate, GR
• Residence: 1804-1811, Kaisheim, Bavaria, GR
• Residence: 1 Oct 1811, Neuberg-an-Donau, Bavaria, GR

Notes:

Suttor/Sutor/Sutter/Suter is a Mennonite family name with Swiss origins. More than likely this surname is derived from the Latin expression for a shoemaker-- sutor.

“Before it began to be drained, the Donaumoos (Danube marsh) was the largest bog in Southern Germany. In 1790 the Bavarian elector Charles Theodor began to invite Mennonites to settle in the inhospitable 120-square-mile area area, offering incentives for recaimation and cultivation. In 1802 over 120 Mennonite families were permitted to settle there, and many of the families remained until the '48er wave of emigration. Entries for Mennonite families in the Donaumoos such as Sutter, Oesch, and Ingold can also be found in Catholic records at Karlskron.”

Johannes Sutor and three of his children were born at Hellmansburg. Many family members are buried there also. The largest of the markers in the cemetery reads:

Here rest the bones (remains) of the deceased Christian Sutterich family.
Father, Mother, Wife, Children. God has received (accepted) them so he
will receive (accept) me too. Before God's face we will meet (see each other) again.
Johannes Sutter, the ancestor (forefather) born 1765, died June 1, 1844
left 2 sons and 2 daughters and 33 grandchildren. Of the Mennonite religion.

Birth:
“Johannes Suttor was born circa 1764. A report for the birth of one of his children gives his birthplace. The document – written by a municipal clerk at Karlskron, 7 miles south of Ingolstadt – stated that he was born on the 'Lindenbrunnerhof bei Annweiler.' This may have been either of two locations. The first possibility is the LindeLbrunnerhof farm between Darstein and Münchweiler am Klingbach, about 4 miles from Annweiler. However, there is a good case to be made for the LindeNbrunnerhof farm at Heltersberg, only a few miles from Lemberg, Pirmasens, and Münchweiler an der Rodalbe but 18 miles from Annweiler. One strong clue seems to point to the Lindenbrunnerhof: an Ingold family that lived there also lived with them in other locations, intermarried with the Sutters, and now has descendants in Tazewell County.”

Residence:
at the Rhine River

Residence:
at the time of Johannes’ and Barbara’s birth

Residence:
Lindelbrunnerhof, 4 mi. from Annweiler

Residence:
Former Cistercian monastery (tenant, along with Friedrich Hage). This estate had belonged to a Catholic abbey before it was secularized in 1803. During the time the Sutters lived there the grounds were used to grow food for the Bavarian army; after 1811 it was used to house displaced Franciscans, then converted into a prison.

Residence:
Forsthof, a Jesuit estate (with Friedrich Hage). In this time frame about 50 Mennonite families were given formerly Catholic properties between Neuberg and Ingolstadt, as the government encouraged cultivation of the Danube Marsh.

Buried:
Hellmansburg Sutter Cemetery

Johannes married Magdalena Stähli in 1788 in Palatinate, GR. Magdalena (daughter of Johannes Jorg Stähli (Staehly) and Anna Kinzinger) was born in 1765 in Oberstraysa, Fränkisch-Crumbach, GR; died in Hellmannsburg, Bavaria, GR; was buried in Hellmannsburg, Bavaria, GR. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• Religion: Amish Mennonite

Notes:

From Frankish-Crumbach (Odenwald), according to Guth.

Birth:
http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/h/o/w/Susan-J-Howard/WEBSITE-0001/UHP-0186.html

Buried:
Hellmansburg Sutter Cemetery

Notes:

Birth:
Northeast of Kaiserslautern

Johannes married Anna Kinzinger on 23 Feb 1723 in Sembach, GR. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Kasper + Magdalena Madie Schedeberger. Magdalena was born in 1700. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]