Roy Joseph Bachman: The Schrock-Birkey Connection

Roy Joseph Bachman

Male 1904 - 1964  (60 years)


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Generation: 1

  1. 1.  Roy Joseph Bachman was born on 9 Oct 1904 in Cazenovia Twp., Woodford Co., IL (son of Samuel Bachman and Barbara Good); died on 7 Dec 1964 in Lowpoint, Woodford Co., IL; was buried in Roanoke Twp., Woodford Co., IL.

    Notes:

    Obit: Gospel Herald - Volume LVIII, Number 1 - January 5, 1965 ? pages 21-23

    Bachman, Roy J., son of Samuel and Barbara (Good) Bachman, was born near Metamora, Ill., Oct. 9, 1904; died of a heart condition near Lowpoint, Ill., Dec. 7, 1964; aged 60 y. 1 m. 28 d. On Sept. 12, 1933, he was married to Laura Heiser, who survives. Also surviving are 2 sons (Wesley and Bruce) and 2 sisters (Martha and Mrs. Dewey Stringer). He was a member of the Roanoke Church, where funeral services were held Dec. 9, in charge of Norman Derstine; interment in Stewart Harmony Cemetery.

    Buried:
    Stewart-Harmony Cemetery

    Roy married Laura Matilda Hieser on 12 Sep 1933 in Champaign Co., IL. Laura (daughter of John Emil Hieser and Mary Cender) was born on 21 Mar 1907 in Champaign Co., IL; died on 1 Jan 1994 in Metamora, Panola Twp., Woodford Co., IL; was buried in Roanoke Twp., Woodford Co., IL. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. Wesley Jay Bachman
    2. Bruce Royal Bachman
    3. Jane Marie Bachman was born on 1 Apr 1945; died on 24 Dec 1945.

Generation: 2

  1. 2.  Samuel Bachman was born on 30 Aug 1863 (son of Andrew Bachman and Katharina Sutter); died on 10 Jan 1925 in Cazenovia Twp., Woodford Co., IL.

    Notes:

    Obit:

    Bachman. - Samuel Bachman was born near Roanoke, Ill., Aug, 1862; died of heart trouble and complications, at his home, Jan. 10, 1925, at the age of 62 y. 4 m. 20 d. He was baptized and received into the Church in his youth and remained a faithful member until death. On March 6, 1890, he was united in marriage with Barbara Good of Hopedale, Ill., to which union were born two sons and two daughters. They established their early home near Cazenovia, Ill., where they have since resided. He is survived by his wife, his children, (Will R., Mrs. Ida M. Stringer, Martha J., and Roy J.) one granddaughter, two brothers, (John, and J. C.), one sister (Mrs. Chris Studer), father, mother, and two sisters having preceded him to the great beyond. Services at the house conducted by Bro. Jon Kennell, and at Harmony Church by Bro. Peter Garber and Bro. Joe Kennell. Interment in Harmony Cemetery. Father's chair is vacant, Father's voice is hushed; Father, thy toils are over, Peacefully sleep 'neath the dust.

    Buried:
    Stuart-Harmony Cemetery

    Samuel married Barbara Good on 6 Mar 1890 in Roanoke, Woodford Co., IL. Barbara (daughter of Josef (Joseph ) Guth (Good) and Katharina Stalter) was born on 25 Feb 1867 in Hopedale, Tazewell Co., IL; died on 10 Apr 1954 in Cazenovia Twp., Woodford Co., IL. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  2. 3.  Barbara Good was born on 25 Feb 1867 in Hopedale, Tazewell Co., IL (daughter of Josef (Joseph ) Guth (Good) and Katharina Stalter); died on 10 Apr 1954 in Cazenovia Twp., Woodford Co., IL.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Reference Number: 147
    • Religion: Amish Mennonite

    Notes:

    Obit: Gospel Herald:

    Bachman, Barbara, daughter of Joseph B. and Catherine Good, was born near Hopedale, Ill., Feb. 24, 1867; passed away at the home of her daughter, Martha Bachman, Metamora, Ill., April 20, 1954; aged 87 y. 1 m. 23 d. On March 6, 1890, she was united in marriage to Samuel Bachman, who preceded her in death on Jan. 10, 1925. To this union 2 sons and 2 daughters were born (Martha, of Metamora; Ida Stringer, and Roy, both of Lowpoint, Ill.; and William, deceased). Also surviving are 8 grandchildren, 6 great-grandchildren, and 4 sisters (Phoebe Birkey and Sarah Bellar, both of Eureka, Ill.; Katie Horsch, Fisher, Ill.; and Mary Birkey, Shickley, Nebr.). Her parents, 3 brothers and 2 sisters preceded her in death. She accepted Christ as her Saviour in her youth and remained a true Christian until death. Funeral services were held at the Roanoke Mennonite Church in charge of John Hostetler, Ezra Yordy, and Dan Hostetler. Burial was made in the Stuart Harmony Cemetery.

    Children:
    1. Martha Julia Bachman was born on 25 Jul 1891.
    2. William Raymond Bachman was born on 21 Nov 1893.
    3. Ida May Bachman was born on 22 Oct 1898.
    4. 1. Roy Joseph Bachman was born on 9 Oct 1904 in Cazenovia Twp., Woodford Co., IL; died on 7 Dec 1964 in Lowpoint, Woodford Co., IL; was buried in Roanoke Twp., Woodford Co., IL.


Generation: 3

  1. 4.  Andrew Bachman was born on 2 Jun 1820 in Arnstadt, Thuringia, GR; died on 10 Jan 1881 in IL; was buried in Roanoke, Woodford Co., IL.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Immigration: 1846, Woodford Co., IL

    Notes:

    Birth:
    (Could be 6 or 9)

    Buried:
    Roanoke Mennonite Cemetery

    Andrew married Katharina Sutter on 20 Apr 1857 in Tazewell Co., IL. Katharina (daughter of Johannes Sutter (Suttor) and Barbara Oesch) was born on 23 Aug 1831 in Neuberg-an-Donau, Bavaria, GR; died on 28 Jan 1888 in IL; was buried in Roanoke, Woodford Co., IL. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  2. 5.  Katharina Sutter was born on 23 Aug 1831 in Neuberg-an-Donau, Bavaria, GR (daughter of Johannes Sutter (Suttor) and Barbara Oesch); died on 28 Jan 1888 in IL; was buried in Roanoke, Woodford Co., IL.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Immigration: 1850, Tazewell Co., IL
    • Census: 1880, Roanoke Twp., Woodford Co., IL

    Notes:

    Lived Roanoke by 1875.

    Birth:
    Forsthof (Gravestone gives year as 1833)

    Immigration:
    from Bavaria with her parents

    Census:
    Son John Bachman, 20, born in Illinois; farmer Andrew, 60, 'Arnstead'; Catherine, 44, Byrn [Bayern or Bavaria]; with five of John's younger brothers and sisters born in Illinois.

    Died:
    Only the year shown on gravestone

    Buried:
    Roanoke Mennonite Cemetery

    Children:
    1. John Bachman
    2. 2. Samuel Bachman was born on 30 Aug 1863; died on 10 Jan 1925 in Cazenovia Twp., Woodford Co., IL.
    3. Jakob Bachman
    4. Magdalena Bachman
    5. Emma Bachman
    6. Barbara Bachman

  3. 6.  Josef (Joseph ) Guth (Good) was born on 19 Jan 1831 in Burgwalden, Bavaria, GR (son of Christian Guth and Barbara Christner); died on 10 Feb 1909 in Hopedale, Tazewell Co., IL; was buried on 13 Feb 1909 in Hopedale, Tazewell Co., IL.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Occupation: Farmer
    • Reference Number: 38
    • Religion: Amish Mennonite
    • Immigration: Abt 1850
    • Census: 1870, Hopedale Twp., Tazewell Co., IL

    Notes:

    Obit: Gospel Herald - March 1909
    Good - Died, Feb. 10, 1909, near Hopedale, Ill., Bro. Joseph Good, aged 78 y. He leaves to mourn his death his aged wife, who has shared the joys and sorrows for 51 years, two sons, six daughters, one brother and one sister, but they mourn not as those who have no hope. Bro. Good was an earnest and humble Christian. For him to live was Christ, and to die was gain. He suffered much pain during his sickness, but we believe that now he is being comforted. Buried Feb. 13. Services by Jos. Egli, John C. Birky and Daniel Nafizger.

    Served as first janitor of Hopedale Mennonite Church for about twenty years: 1876-1896. The first six years he received $30 a year for his services.

    Census:
    Joseph, 37 yrs old, occupation farmer; birthplace Bavaria. Children: Joseph 11, Lizzie 8, Phoebe 6, Barbara 3, and Sarah 1. (Joseph was listed as away at school that day.

    Josef married Katharina Stalter on 2 Mar 1856 in Tazewell Co., IL. Katharina (daughter of Jakob Stalter and Katharina Stalter) was born on 9 Jan 1832 in Hemerten, Bavaria, GR; died on 15 Oct 1919 in Hopedale, Tazewell Co., IL; was buried in IL. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  4. 7.  Katharina Stalter was born on 9 Jan 1832 in Hemerten, Bavaria, GR (daughter of Jakob Stalter and Katharina Stalter); died on 15 Oct 1919 in Hopedale, Tazewell Co., IL; was buried in IL.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Reference Number: 39
    • Religion: Amish Mennonite
    • Immigration: 1854, Le Havre to New York

    Notes:

    Obit: Nov. 6, 1919 Gospel Herald
    Good. - Katharine, daughter of Jacob and Magdalena Stalter, was born in Germany Jan. 9, 1832; died at the home of her daughter in Hopedale, Ill., Oct. 15, 1919 ; aged 87 y. 9 m. 6 d. At the age of 14 she united with the A. M. Church, of which she was a faithful member until death. In the year of 1854 she sailed for America. She was united in marriage to Joseph Good in 1856. Her husband died Feb. 10, 1909. To this union were born 10 children. One son and 1 daughter died in infancy. She leaves 2 sons and 6 daughters, (Joseph, Dan, Lizzie Birkey, Phoebe Birkey, Barbara Bachman, Sarah Beller, Katie Horsch, and Mary Birkey); also 40 grandchildren, 34 great-grandchildren. Funeral services at the home by Bro. J. C. Birkey and the church by Jonas Litwiller and J. C. Birkey.

    Grandmother's place in the home is vacant,
    Her voice is heard no more,
    Yet we hope again to meet her,
    0n the blissful evergreen shore."

    Immigration:
    Arrived 5 Jun 1854 on the ship Cumberland.

    Children:
    1. Joseph B. Good was born on 24 Aug 1858 in Hopedale, Tazewell Co., IL; died on 17 Jan 1933 in Wayland, Henry Co., IA; was buried on 20 Jan 1933 in Wayland, Henry Co., IA.
    2. Elizabeth Guth (Good) was born on 11 Oct 1860 in Hopedale, Tazewell Co., IL; died on 2 Oct 1924 in Hopedale, Tazewell Co., IL; was buried in Hopedale, Tazewell Co., IL.
    3. Phoebe (Bena) Good was born on 5 Sep 1863 in Hopedale, Tazewell Co., IL; died on 16 Dec 1962 in Eureka, Woodford Co., IL; was buried on 18 Dec 1962 in Fisher, Champaign Co., IL.
    4. 3. Barbara Good was born on 25 Feb 1867 in Hopedale, Tazewell Co., IL; died on 10 Apr 1954 in Cazenovia Twp., Woodford Co., IL.
    5. Sarah Good was born on 17 Apr 1869 in Hopedale, Tazewell Co., IL; died on 6 Jun 1967 in Eureka, Woodford Co., IL; was buried in Graymont, Livingston Co., IL.
    6. Katherine Good was born on 8 Apr 1871 in Hopedale, Tazewell Co., IL; died on 29 Nov 1964 in Washburn, Woodford Co., IL; was buried in Fisher, Champaign Co., IL.
    7. Mary Good was born on 28 Oct 1874 in Hopedale, Tazewell Co., IL; died on 10 Jul 1966 in Geneva, Fillmore Co., NE; was buried on 13 Jul 1966 in Shickley, Fillmore Co., NE.
    8. Daniel W. Good was born on 18 Jul 1878 in Hopedale, Tazewell Co., IL; died on 5 Feb 1948 in Lebanon, Linn Co., OR; was buried in Ninety-One, Clackamas Co., OR.


Generation: 4

  1. 10.  Johannes Sutter (Suttor) was born on 26 Dec 1796 in Lindelbrunnerhof Bei Annweiler, Palatinate, GR (son of Johannes Sutor and Magdalena Stähli); died on 2 Aug 1887 in Morton Twp., Tazewell Co., IL; was buried in Aug 1887 in Groveland, Tazewell Co., IL.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Occupation: Estate manager/Minister/farmer - Bauer in Dittenfeld
    • Religion: Amish
    • Residence: 1825-27, Probfeld, Bavaria, GR
    • Ordained: 19 May 1824, Bavaria, GR
    • Immigration: 11 Nov 1851, New York, NY
    • Census: 1860, Morton Twp., Tazewell Co., IL

    Notes:



    Birth:
    One history has the year 1795. Source #360 gives birthplace as Münchweiler (probably Münchweiler an der Rodalbe.

    Residence:
    John and Barbara were born there

    Immigration:
    From Le Havre. After 36 day voyage on the Samuel L. Fox (left Le Havre about 5 Oct 1851).
    https://www.immigrantships.net/v3/1800v3/samuelmfox18511111_01.html

    Census:
    pg. 149 farmer John Sutter, 65, Germany; Barbara, 61; Andrew, 19; Andrew Buky [son-in-law Andrew Birkey], 29; Fanny [Veronica], 22; and Barbara, 1, born in Illinois.

    Buried:
    Birky-Landes Mennonite Cemetery - Grave #36 on printed plot map, or Plot #2 on the 8/12/2013 version.

    Johannes married Barbara Oesch on 31 Oct 1819 in Hanfeld, Bavaria, GR. Barbara (daughter of Christian N. Oesch and Katharina Burki) was born on 24 Jun 1799 in Saarbuckenheim, Alsace, FR; died on 10 Sep 1884 in Morton, Tazewell Co., IL; was buried in Groveland, Tazewell Co., IL. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  2. 11.  Barbara Oesch was born on 24 Jun 1799 in Saarbuckenheim, Alsace, FR (daughter of Christian N. Oesch and Katharina Burki); died on 10 Sep 1884 in Morton, Tazewell Co., IL; was buried in Groveland, Tazewell Co., IL.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Religion: Amish Mennonite

    Notes:



    Birth:
    (Sarre-Union) Day could be read Jun 23 or 27 just as well.

    Buried:
    Landes Cemetery - Grave #10 on printed plot map dated 8/12/2013.

    Notes:

    Married:
    Near Lake Starnberg, below Munich. They were first cousins.

    Children:
    1. Magdalena Sutter was born on 22 Jul 1821 in Neuberg-an-Donau, Bavaria, GR; died on 24 Feb 1909 in Milford, Seward Co., NE; was buried in Milford, Seward Co., NE.
    2. Christian Sutter was born on 21 Apr 1823 in Neuberg-an-Donau, Bavaria, GR; died on 11 May 1899 in Hopedale, Tazewell Co., IL; was buried on 14 May 1899 in Hopedale, Tazewell Co., IL.
    3. John (Johann) Sutter was born on 14 Mar 1825 in Probfeld, Bavaria, GR; died on 11 Dec 1904 in Hopedale, Tazewell Co., IL; was buried in Hopedale, Tazewell Co., IL.
    4. Barbara Sutter was born on 1 Feb 1827 in Probfeld, Bavaria, GR; died on 10 Jan 1903 in Fisher, Champaign Co., IL; was buried in Fisher, Champaign Co., IL.
    5. Joseph (Josef) Sutter (Suttor) was born on 10 Oct 1829 in Neuberg-an-Donau, Bavaria, GR; died on 26 Sep 1860 in Eureka, Woodford Co., IL; was buried in Woodford Co., IL.
    6. 5. Katharina Sutter was born on 23 Aug 1831 in Neuberg-an-Donau, Bavaria, GR; died on 28 Jan 1888 in IL; was buried in Roanoke, Woodford Co., IL.
    7. Jakob Sutter was born on 27 Nov 1833 in Neuberg-an-Donau, Bavaria, GR; died on 26 Feb 1923 in Milford, Seward Co., NE; was buried in Milford, Seward Co., NE.
    8. Elisabeth Sutter was born on 1 Mar 1836 in Neuberg-an-Donau, Bavaria, GR; died on 30 Jun 1884 in Groveland, Tazewell Co., IL; was buried in Groveland, Tazewell Co., IL.
    9. Veronica (Fannie) Sutter was born on 11 Nov 1838 in Neuberg-an-Donau, Bavaria, GR; died on 16 Apr 1927 in Fisher, Champaign Co., IL; was buried in Apr 1927 in Fisher, Champaign Co., IL.
    10. Andrew J. (Andréas Johannes) Sutter was born on 15 May 1841 in Neuberg-an-Donau, Bavaria, GR; died on 8 Feb 1921 in Phoenix, Maricopa Co., AZ; was buried in Woods Co., OK.

  3. 12.  Christian Guth was born about 1800 in Sulzthal, Alsace, FR (son of Christian Guth and Barbara Güngerich); died in Burgwalden, Bavaria, GR.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Reference Number: 40
    • Religion: Amish Mennonite

    Notes:

    The site of Burgwalden had once been an estate of the wealthy Fugger family of merchants from Augsburg. During the Middle Ages, the Fugger family applied their wealth to diverse ends that included both influencing election of the Holy Roman Emperor and establishing affordable housing for the poor.

    The first four children of Christian arrived in America on the ship Charles Hill in 1854.

    Birth:
    Gunstalerhof

    Christian + Barbara Christner. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  4. 13.  Barbara Christner (daughter of Peter Christner and Magdalena Guth).

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Reference Number: 41
    • Religion: Amish Mennonite

    Notes:

    From Gunstal.

    Children:
    1. Elizabeth Good was born in 1828 in Burgwalden, Bavaria, GR; died on 5 Feb 1899 in Milford, Seward Co., NE; was buried in Milford, Seward Co., NE.
    2. 6. Josef (Joseph ) Guth (Good) was born on 19 Jan 1831 in Burgwalden, Bavaria, GR; died on 10 Feb 1909 in Hopedale, Tazewell Co., IL; was buried on 13 Feb 1909 in Hopedale, Tazewell Co., IL.
    3. Peter Guth was born on 25 Mar 1832 in Burgwalden, Bavaria, GR; died on 8 Aug 1916 in Reno Co., KS; was buried in Nickerson, Reno Co., KS.
    4. Christian Guth (Good) was born on 4 Feb 1833 in Burgwalden, Bavaria, GR; died on 6 Sep 1889 in IL; was buried in Hopedale, Tazewell Co., IL.
    5. Magdalena Good was born on 14 Feb 1834 in Burgwalden, Bavaria, GR; died on 18 Aug 1921 in Hopedale, Tazewell Co., IL; was buried in Hopedale, Tazewell Co., IL.

  5. 14.  Jakob Stalter was born on 23 May 1798 in Zweibrücken, Rheinland-Pfalz, GR (son of Heinrich Stalter and Katharina Roggy); died on 3 Mar 1864 in Fu?rsteinried, Bavaria, GR.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Occupation: Farmer, restaurant leaseholder
    • Reference Number: 42
    • Religion: Amish Mennonite
    • PURC: 1860, Weilheim, Bavaria, GR

    Notes:

    Jacob Stalter owned Hemerten at one time. His daughter Katharina Stalter Guth (Good) was born there. Two subsequent families owned Hemerten, then in 1885 a baron named Legg bought it and his family still lived on the farm in 1984.

    Birth:
    Gersbergerhof

    PURC:
    Purchased the Lindauer farm in Ammerhöfe community where the Christner family lived.

    Died:
    At the time of Jakob’s death he was a leaseholder of a beer restaurant at Fu?rsteinried, a hunting lodge built to look like a baroque palace. It was constructed for Elector Maximilian II Emanuel in 1715, bordering the Fu?rsteinried Wald (forest) on the southwest outskirts of Munich.

    Jakob married Katharina Stalter on 27 Apr 1816. Katharina (daughter of Jakob Stalter and Magdalena Nafziger) was born in 1800 in Gern, Munich, Bavaria, GR; died on 17 Jan 1847 in Bavaria, GR. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  6. 15.  Katharina Stalter was born in 1800 in Gern, Munich, Bavaria, GR (daughter of Jakob Stalter and Magdalena Nafziger); died on 17 Jan 1847 in Bavaria, GR.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Reference Number: 43
    • Religion: Amish Mennonite

    Notes:

    Married her cousin.

    “Marrying of cousins was NOT a an unusual occurrence in the past. In the general population, 'It is estimated that 80% of the marriages in history were between second cousins'. The population base was smaller. People lived in small communities and migrated within those same small communities. Transportation was slow and dangerous; by walking or by horse and people seldom, if ever traveled beyond the boundaries of the area in which they were born without some sort of armed escort. Our Amish ancestors had even more reasons to restrict their marriage-partner choices. They were a minority group within the general population. Amish principles forbid marriage with those of other faiths , the marriage partner always had to come from the community of Amish believers. Often a suitable partner could not be found among the limited number of members of the home congregation, so, in spite of the dangers of long-distance travel contacts had to be established over long distances. When a wedding did occur under these circumstances, it often happened that other potential marriage partners were discovered among the siblings of the bride and groom. Such doubled unions frequently took place and created a strong bond between two families. Pressure to marry within the Amish group came also from outside the group. There were rules from the local authorities forbidding the Amish/Mennonites from adding people from the communities to their congregations. They could not baptize others into their faith, other than those born into Mennonite families. Church leaders were chastised for baptizing and drawing young unmarried maids into their faith. (Davis, Richard Warren) With all of these restrictions it is understandable that our ancestors chose 'cousins' as their marriage partners in many cases.”

    Birth:
    Full name may have been Katharina Magdalena.
    https://www.myheritage.com/research/record-1-422579201-1-561056/katharina-magdalena-stalter-in-myheritage-family-trees

    Children:
    1. Henry Stalter was born in 1817 in Peoria, Tazewell Co., IL; died in Peoria, Tazewell Co., IL.
    2. Magdalena Stalter was born in 1818; died in 1874 in Burgwalden, Bavaria, GR.
    3. Elisabeth Stalter was born in 1820 in Stockau, Bavaria, GR; died in USA.
    4. Jacob N. Stalter was born on 12 Sep 1823 in Bavaria, GR; died on 8 Jun 1898 in Livingston Co., IL; was buried in Flanagan, Livingston Co., IL.
    5. 7. Katharina Stalter was born on 9 Jan 1832 in Hemerten, Bavaria, GR; died on 15 Oct 1919 in Hopedale, Tazewell Co., IL; was buried in IL.
    6. Jacobine (Phoebe) Stalter was born in 1833 in Hemerten, Bavaria, GR; died on 10 Feb 1894 in Hopedale, Tazewell Co., IL; was buried in Hopedale, Tazewell Co., IL.
    7. Christian Stalter was born on 9 Feb 1834 in Hemerten, Bavaria, GR; died on 18 Oct 1899 in Hopedale, Tazewell Co., IL; was buried in Hopedale, Tazewell Co., IL.
    8. Maria Stalter was born on 18 Nov 1836 in Hemerten, Bavaria, GR; died in Bavaria, GR.
    9. Ann Elisabeth Stalter was born about 1838; died in 1873.


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