Elizabeth Stalter

Other Events and Attributes:

• Reference Number: S21247
• RWDN: S24247

Notes:

Obit: Gospel Herald - Volume XI, Number 8 - May 23, 1918 - page 143

Stalter.-Elizabeth Stalter, daughter of John and Elizabeth Stalter was born at Nussenwalder Hof, Lorraine, France, died May 9, 1918, at the St. Francis Hospital, Peoria, Ill.; aged 76 y. 5 m. 24 d.

She came to America with her parents in her youth, where she united with the A. M. Church at Hamilton, Butler Co., Ohio. Later they came to Illinois, first to Tazewell Co., then to Livingston Co. Her parents and 3 brothers preceded her. She leaves 2 brothers, Joseph and Daniel, 1 sister Mrs. Magdalena Rocke, Meadows, Ill. She had been well taken care of at the hospital for nearly 21 years.

Funeral services were held at the Waldo A. M. Church by Bro. Geo. Summer in English and Bro. Joe Kinsinger in German. Buried at the Waldo Cemetery.

Remained single,
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On US Census, 1880, Livingston Co., Illinois, res#123

The 1880 census noted that Elizabeth was “at home, insane.” Bartonville was the hospital where she resided later in life. See source for more on Elizabeth’s condition.

Peoria State Hospital Historic District, also known as Bartonville State Hospital or Illinois Asylum for the Incurable Insane, was a psychiatric hospital operated by the State of Illinois from 1902 to 1973. The hospital is located in Bartonville, Illinois, near the city of Peoria in Peoria County. The hospital grounds and its 47 buildings are listed as a historic district on the National Register of Historic Places.

Birth:
Nassenwald farm

Died:
St. Francis Hospital

Buried:
Waldo Cemetery

Other Events and Attributes:

• Occupation: Farmer
• Reference Number: S2124
• Religion: Amish Mennonite Church
• Residence: Bitche, Moselle, FR
• RWDN: S2124
• Immigration: 1853
• Residence: Abt 1853, Hamilton, Butler Co., OH
• Residence: Abt 1855, Pekin, Tazewell Co., IL
• Residence: 1860, Flanagan, Livingston Co., IL
• Residence: 1865, Meadows, McLean Co., IL
• Census: 1870, Livingston Co., IL
• Census: 1880, Livingston Co., IL
• Naturalization: 26 May 1887, Livingston Co., IL

Notes:

Obit: Herald of Truth, July 1897
"On the 18th of May 1897, in Livingston Co., Ill., of the infirmities of old age, Bro. John Stalter, aged 84 years, eight months and three days. Like a weary pilgrim, longing for home and rest with Jesus, our dear aged brother passed from us, and we think of him as having gone where his soul so often longed to go. Bro. Stalter was born in Monbijou in Rhenish Bavaria, Germany and was thrice married. Eight children blessed the first union, of whom two sons and two daughters remain. His youngest sister, widow Susanna Petter Schmitt, residing in Alsace, Germany, also survives. His oldest daughter has been a hapless invalid for over twenty years, which weighed heavily on him at times, yet he ever did what could be done for his child. God graciously provided ample means and faithful servants, so that their home was one of peace and plenty. His remains were laid to rest on the 20th in the Waldo graveyard.
A large concourse of friends assembled to pay their last respects to the departed. Funeral services by Joseph Kinsinger at the house and by Chr. Zimmerman at the church, from 2 Tim. 4:7, 8 and by J.P. Schmitt from Isa. 38:3, and by D. Orendorff from 2 Cor. 5:10, and from 1 Cor. 15:44 to end. Bro. Stalter was a faithful member in the Old Amish branch of the Mennonite church."


An obituary:
TRANSLATED FROM GERMAN BY A. LLOYD SWARTZENDRUBER (1962)

STALTER- On May 18,1897 in Livingstone County, Illinios, Brother John Stalter fell asleep in the Lord, of infirmities of old age, at the ripe age of 84 years, 8 months, and 3 days. So it pleased the Lord of life and death to bring our beloved brother and tired pilgrim out of this wearisome life into eternal home and rest. His earth life has departed but he has arrived where he will remain eternally. Brother Stalter was born on the farm Monbijon, in the Rhineland-Pfalz, Bavaria, Germany. He came to the U.S.A. in 1857. He was married three times: (#1 Elizabeth Rediger, #2 Jacobina Rediger, #3 Katherina Scherz) and had eight children in the first marriage; four preceding him in death. He leaves two sons, Joseph and Daniel, and two daughters, Lena Rocke and Elizabeth Bartonville. He also leaves behind his youngest sister in Alsace, Germany (this is now in France), namely Widow Susanna (Stalter) Peter-Schmitt. (There are still Peter-Schmitts living around the Colmar and Mulhouse areas.).The oldest daughter of our brother was bed-fast for 20 years and needed to be cared for like a child, which caused a great burden for the old father. But the means did not fail to have her cared for because the Lord richly blessed him in life. In a wonderful way the Lord cared for the old Brother's household until the end, through the faithful service of his children and a faithful maid who had lived with them while his last wife was living. She remained with him until his death and cared for his sick daughter and kept the house in good order. He also had a faithful hired man, so he often said he could not thank God enough for such help.

His earthly body was laid to rest on May 20, in the Waldo Cemetery. A large number of his friends and acquaintances accompanied his body to the grave. The funeral messages were given at the house by Joseph Kinsinger and at the church by Christian Zimmerman speaking on II Timothy 4:7-8 and by John Peter-Schmitt from Isiah 38:1-3; and II Chorinthians 5:10, and by Daniel Orendorf at the grave from I Corinthians 15:44 to the end of the chapter. Brother Stalter was a faithful member of the Old Order Amish Mennonite Church.

Children you are still in rich mercy
Your father has gone to eternal rest
By him there is also room for you
God calls you daily.


Tombstone in Waldo Cemetary. near Waldo, Illinois confirms these dates for birth and death.
On the 1870 census John is 58 years old. On the listing is a Josephine Stalter, also 58 years old, listed in the place where a wife is usually listed. This must have been a housekeeper. ddk, , , ,

In 1835 Joseph Stalter gave the lease of the Kirschbacher Hof to both of his sons, Joseph and Johannes. Joseph stayed on this farm and Johannes soon moved to the Nassenwald estate in Lorraine. In 1849 Joseph and John emigrated to the United States.



{Centennial History of the Mennonites of Illinois 1829-1929: "'The region about Farnisville on the Mackinaw river was settled almost entirely by Germans, many of whom had been there for as long as twenty years (before
Amish Mennonites in Tazewell County, Illinois 1858-1864). They were almost exclusively Mennonites (Amish, as they were usually called), who had immigrated from Bavaria, Rhenish Bavaria, Switzerland, Wuerttemberg, Baden, Alsace, and Lorraine. They were good farmers and otherwise fine people, most all of whom attained prosperity and many of whom became wealthy.... In the vicinity of Gridley the situation was similar. In the township in the southwest corner of Livingston County, Waldo Township, the Germans were in the majority. Children of the German settlers around Farnisville moved here, and we find the same names here as there. For instance, Ehresman, Mueller, Ulrich, Neuhauser, Klopfenstein, Schlegel, Sommer, Rich, Farni, etc. This township was called 'the German township' at that time. New settlers from Germany also settled here, such as: George Wurst, Heinrich Otto, John Lukert, John Stalter (who had first lived for several years in Tazewell County), Joseph Cloudon, John, Christian and Jacob Koenig who came from McLean County, and many others."

Joseph and his brother John received the Kirschbacherhof 4 Mar 1835. Both later went to America. They fell into debt and migrated in 1849 to (where?). After John was in America he sent a photo of himself and his wife (he was married three times) and a letter written by a friend. Both items still exist. John was homesick, but his brothers who had paid the debts of John and Joseph no longer wanted contact with them.

Herald of Truth - July 1, 1897 - Page 206, 207
STALTER - On the 18th of May 1897, in Livingston Co., Ill., of the infirmities of old age, Bro. John Stalter, aged 84 years, 8 months and 3 days. Like a weary pilgrim, longing for home and rest with Jesus, our dear aged brother passed from US, and we think of him as having gone where his soul so often longed to go. Bro. Stalter was born in Monbijon in Rhenish Bavaria, Germany and was thrice married. Eight children blessed the first union, of whom two sons and two daughters remain. His youngest sister, widow Susanna Petter Schmitt, residing in Alsace, Germany, also survives. His oldest daughter has been a hapless invalid for over twenty years, which weighed heavily on him at times, yet he ever did what could be done for his child. God graciously provided ample means and faithful servants, so that their home was one of peace and plenty. His remains were laid to rest on the 20th in the Waldo graveyard. A large concourse of friends assembled to pay their last respects to the departed. Funeral services by Joseph Kinsinger at the house and by Chr. Zimmerman at the church, from 2 Tim. 4:7, 8 and by J.P. Schmitt from Isa. 38:3, and by D. Orendorff from 2 Cor. 5:10, and from 1 Cor. 15:44 to end. Bro. Stalter was a faithful member in the Old Amish branch of the Mennonite church.

Birth:
Monbijon in Rhenish Bavaria, Germany (see obit)

Residence:
Nassenwaldhof

Residence:
At one time tenant of Kirschbacherhof

Immigration:
Ship Samuel L. Fox

Census:
res#131, US Census

Census:
res#123, US Census

Naturalization:
“John Stalter of Bavaria”

Buried:
Waldo Cemetery

Johannes married Elizabeth Reidiger on 18 Feb 1835 in GR. Elizabeth (daughter of Sebastian Reidiger and Magdalena Güngerich) was born about 1812 in Ichenheim, Baden, GR; died before 1853 in GR. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

Birth:
Otteneweierhof estate

Other Events and Attributes:

• CLER: Y
• Occupation: Farmer on Monbijou estate, assisting his father-in-law, the estate manager and leaseholder.

Notes:

Joseph made experiments with threshing machines powered by water. After his sons fell into debt, Joseph had to sell his farm Stuppacherhof (previously owned by Jakob Dettweiler) to pay the debt of his sons. He was a broken man and died in 1851.

Tenant on Kirschbacherhof and Monbijou, preacher of the Zweibrücken congregation. Lived on Ottenweierhof in 1822.

The Kirschbacher Hof was reconstructed and after 1822 was again leased to the Stalters who were still living in the Zweibrücken region. Joseph Stalter was for a time a leaseholder on the Kirschbacher Hof. For a time he was owner of an estate Stubbach Hof. In 1835 he moved to the “Montbijou” estate and gave the lease of the Kirschbacher Hof to both of his sons, Joseph and Johannes.

Joseph Stalter was a respected preacher of the Amish congregation.,

Birth:
Bickenaschbacherhof

Died:
Monbijou estate

Joseph married Susanna Hauter on 24 Jul 1806. Susanna (daughter of Nikolaus Hauter and Elizabeth Maurer) was born in 1787; died on 11 Nov 1820 in Dietrichingen, Rheinland-Pfalz, GR. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

Died:
Monbijou estate

Other Events and Attributes:

• Residence: 1791-1814, Alsace Lorraine, FR

Notes:

See Source for description of properties.

Daughter Elisabeth probably belongs in this family, based on the statement in Guth that she is of the Ottenweierhof, and based on Stewart’s chart which shows her a sister of Katherina, wife of Joseph Stalter (1807) and also a sister of Barbara who is Joseph Stalter’s (1786) second wife. Some speculation here. dk

Birth:
Ottenweierhof

Residence:
Managed and lived at Ottenweierhof

Died:
Ottenweierhof

Sebastian + Magdalena Güngerich. Magdalena (daughter of Christian Güngerich and Anna Holly) was born on 27 Jun 1773 in Steinseltz, Bas-Rhin, FR; died on 24 Mar 1835 in Mahlberg, Waldeck, GR. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

Died:
Ottenweierhof

Other Events and Attributes:

• Reference Number: 78
• Religion: Amish Mennonite
• RWDN: S21

Notes:

One of the effects of the French revolution was the annexing of the territories to the north east of what was then France. This included Belgium, Savoy, Nice, and all lands up to the Rhine River. This was accomplished by 1793. This change of government had to have been noticed by our Stalter ancestors. When the Kirschbacher Hof estate was ransacked by the invading armies the Heinrich Stalter family took temporary refuge with eldest son, Christian, who was a leasholder on the Bickenaschbacher Hof. For reasons unknown, this estate was not destroyed. Christian Stalter was residing on Bickenaschbacher Hof when he died in 1831.

In 1800 Hienrich Stalter died on the Tenschof estate. His widow apparently returned to the Bickenaschbacher Hof for it was from here that she wrote a letter to the former Duke Max Joseph of Zweibrücken. In this letter, which is still kept in an archives in Munich, she explains her gloomy circumstances, and reminds the Elector of his promise given to her husband at the occasion of his visit at the Elector’s exile at Rohrbach castle near Heidleberg; namely that the Stalter family should obtain another estate as soon as “his Highness should acquire other dominions”.

The Elector, in fact, remembered his promise and ordered that the Stalter family (several sons and a nephew of Heinrich Stalter) could possess considerable estates from the nationalized Upper Bavarian Abbey’s properties. These Abbey (church) properties were available because, as part of the changes brought about by the French Revolution, there was a great reduction in the power of the Catholic Church. Church lands were confiscated and sold, or used by the French government to gain the support of those “German” noblemen who had lost property as a result of the revolution. This helped the French, because these new properity holders now were indebted to the French authorities, and therefore more likely to support the French in the new regime. This also helped our Stalter ancestors, because now there was land available for them to farm which the Elector could use to keep his promise to his friend, Heinrich Stalter.

A number of other Amish families followed the Stalters to Bavaria, where the government readily accepted them to cultivate the abandoned Abbey’s estates. The Bavarian government was quite aware of the special abilites of the Mennonite farmers.,

Birth:
Tenscherhof in Lorhringen

Died:
Bickenaschbacherhof

Christian married Magdalena Hauter in 1785. Magdalena (daughter of Johannes Hauter and Magdalena Schrag) was born in Jun 1759 in Ixheim, GR; died on 11 Dec 1805 in Hengstbach, Zweibrücken, GR. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• Reference Number: 79
• Religion: Amish Mennonite
• Birth: 1759
• Death: 1805

Notes:

Info. about Magdalena and her family from Cender papers and Stewart chart.,

Died:
Bichashbacherhof, GR

Notes:

Of Monbijou.

Nikolaus + Elizabeth Maurer. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• Occupation: Farmer
• Religion: Anabaptist

Notes:

“Sebastian Reidiger became the manager of the Lords of Dungern at the estate at Ottenweier in 1763. With his family he had come from the valley of Emmental in the Kanton of Bern in Switzerland. He belonged to the Anabaptist movement, the Mennonites. In the Ottenweier estate records as in the community records the name Reidiger has also been spelled as: Reitiger, Reitenger, Riediger, Rediger, Rodiger, Reutiger and Reudinger. As did his predecessor, the Mennonite Johann Georg Rieder who managed the estate from 1720-1763, Sebastian (Basch) Reidiger, conducted religious meetings at the estate and at the close by forest, the Anabaptist forest, for his family and the hired hands. There, one can still find a huge, round table made from sandstone on which the adult baptismal candidates have been registered.”

Part owner of the Meier farm.

Sebastian married Anna Lederach (Lederer) before 1774. Anna was born about 1725; died after 1796. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

From the Rohr farm by Bruehl.

Notes:

Of Steinseltz, Alsace near Wissemberg (later the Rheinseltz, Alsace).

Birth:
Blumenthal farm

Christian + Anna Holly. Anna died on 21 Sep 1830 in Wellenburg, Bavaria, GR. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]